{"id":3080,"date":"2022-05-26T07:00:22","date_gmt":"2022-05-26T05:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hasansever.org\/?p=3080"},"modified":"2022-05-26T07:00:22","modified_gmt":"2022-05-26T05:00:22","slug":"kentle-kafaniza-gore-oynayamazsiniz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hasansever.org\/?p=3080","title":{"rendered":"G\u0131lgam\u0131\u015f Destan\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 harf \u00f6temizde yaz\u0131ld\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"

T\u00fcrkiye son 20 y\u0131lda en b\u00fcy\u00fck sermayesini topra\u011fa g\u00f6md\u00fc ve devasa binalar dikti. Peki yap\u0131lanlar ne kadar do\u011fru? Yap\u0131lan binalar\u0131n do\u011fa ve \u00e7evreye etkileri neler? Bu sorular\u0131 ODT\u00dc Ekonomi Toplulu\u011fu\u2019nun kurucular\u0131ndan Yazar Hasan Sever\u2019e sorduk. Sever;\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cSiz kentle \u00f6yle kafan\u0131za g\u00f6re oynayamazs\u0131n\u0131z. Kolektif haf\u0131zalard\u0131r kentler ve mukimleri gibi edebiyat\u00e7\u0131lar i\u00e7in de bu \u00e7ok m\u00fchimdir.\u201d diyor<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 ODT\u00dc y\u0131llar\u0131ndan ba\u015flayal\u0131m m\u0131? San\u0131r\u0131m 90\u2019larda orada \u00f6\u011frenciydin. Hatta ODT\u00dc Ekonomi Toplulu\u011funun kurucular\u0131ndans\u0131n. Hem o toplulu\u011fun kurulu\u015fu hem de 90\u2019lardaki ODT\u00dc ortam\u0131ndan, \u00f6\u011frenci hareketlerinden biraz bahseder misin? Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00f6\u011frenci hareketlerini o d\u00f6nemle k\u0131yaslayabilir misin?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> 1989\u2019da ODT\u00dc\u2019ye girdi\u011fimde, \u00fcniversitede hareketli bir \u00f6\u011frenci eylemlili\u011fi vard\u0131: Har(a)\u00e7 eylemleri, Yemekhane eylemleri, Ula\u015f\u0131m eylemleri, Maviler\u2019in kald\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 yap\u0131lan eylemler vb. 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019den sonraki ilk toparlanma d\u00f6nemiydi. Hareketlili\u011fe paralel her b\u00f6l\u00fcm kendi toplulu\u011funu kuruyordu. Yani zaman bir \u00e7e\u015fit \u201cTopluluklar \u00c7a\u011f\u0131\u201dyd\u0131. Biz de \u00e7a\u011fa uyduk.<\/p>\n

Bir s\u0131n\u0131f bizden ilerideki bir arkada\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u201cNiye ekonomi toplulu\u011funu kurmuyorsunuz?\u201d kantin sorusuyla ba\u015flad\u0131 her \u015fey. \u00dcmit ve ben i\u015fe giri\u015ftik. K\u00fclt\u00fcr i\u015flerine ba\u015fvurumuzu yapt\u0131k. T\u00fcz\u00fcn han\u0131m vard\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr \u0130\u015fleri\u2019nin ba\u015f\u0131nda, T\u00fcz\u00fcn Denli, oradan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u201colur\u201dla toplulu\u011fu kurduk. \u00dcmit ilk d\u00f6nem ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, ben ikinci d\u00f6nem ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131m. Topluluk \u00e7ok k\u0131sa s\u00fcrede hayli ilgi ve \u00fcye toplad\u0131. Ama as\u0131l Ekonomi Toplulu\u011fu bizden sonraki ku\u015faklar\u0131n marifetiyle hayat buldu. \u00c7ok \u00e7ok g\u00fczel i\u015fler yapt\u0131lar.<\/p>\n

Bug\u00fcnlerle o g\u00fcnleri kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131racak olursam, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde toplumsal muhalefet biraz yava\u015flam\u0131\u015f gibi. Anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131r sebepleri var tabii. Ge\u00e7ici bir durum bu. Tarihin tekeri geriye d\u00f6nmez!<\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 Roman yazmaya nas\u0131l ba\u015flad\u0131n? G\u00f6\u00e7menli\u011fin bunda etkisi oldu mu?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> Yazarl\u0131k vir\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc 1983 y\u0131l\u0131nda bir y\u0131ll\u0131\u011f\u0131na ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z Mardin\u2019de kapt\u0131m. Bundan art\u0131k \u00e7ok eminim. Asker a\u011fabeyim her g\u00fcn bir kompozisyon yazmam\u0131z\u0131 ister, be\u011fenirse de 20 TL verirdi. Ka\u00e7 kere 20 TL ald\u0131m hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum ama yazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131n ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 y\u0131l\u0131 1983\u2019t\u00fcr. Sonra paras\u0131z yat\u0131l\u0131 s\u0131navlar\u0131n\u0131 kazan\u0131p Ankara\u2019ya, Ankara Atat\u00fcrk Lisesi\u2019ne geldim. Sonras\u0131 demin s\u00f6yledi\u011fim ODT\u00dc ve pe\u015finden Z\u00fcrih\u2019te s\u00fcrg\u00fcn y\u0131llar\u0131.<\/p>\n

Roman yazmadan \u00f6nce yakla\u015f\u0131k on y\u0131l d\u00fczenli g\u00fcnl\u00fck yaz\u0131lar yazd\u0131m. Bazen g\u00fcnde iki \u00fc\u00e7 yaz\u0131 yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m bile olurdu. Konular muhtelifti; yemek tarifinden spora, an\u0131 yaz\u0131lar\u0131ndan siyasi de\u011ferlendirmelere kadar geni\u015f bir yelpazede yaz\u0131yordum. \u015eimdi o yaz\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131 hasansever.org adl\u0131 ki\u015fisel sitemde konular\u0131na g\u00f6re tasnif edip peyderpey yay\u0131nl\u0131yorum. Yazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 tetiklemede g\u00f6\u00e7menli\u011fin etkisi oldu mu? Olmu\u015ftur. K\u0131sa yaz\u0131lar\u0131 yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m d\u00f6nemi bir \u0131rma\u011f\u0131n kayna\u011f\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p ovaya, d\u00fcze inene kadar ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015ftan ta\u015fa \u00e7alan h\u0131r\u00e7\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131na benzetiyorum. \u015eimdi ovaday\u0131m, daha dingin, daha durgun ak\u0131yorum. Roman yazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 da bunu zaruri k\u0131l\u0131yor; sab\u0131rla ve s\u00fcrekli; yata\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 incitmeden akman\u0131z gerekiyor\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 \u201cPolitik s\u00fcrg\u00fcn\u201d olmak ikinci roman\u0131n \u201cSu Duydum\u201du yazmanda etkili oldu san\u0131r\u0131m. Bu romanla as\u0131l anlatmak istedi\u011fin san\u0131r\u0131m kesi\u015fen benzer hikayeler, ne dersin?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> \u2018Su Duydum\u2019 her\u015feyden \u00f6nce Feride\u2019nin roman\u0131 yani bir kad\u0131n roman\u0131. Zaman zaman Ferdi\u2019nin Feride\u2019nin g\u00f6lgesinde kalm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131 -hatta isim se\u00e7imi bile \u00f6yle- \u201cerkek\u201d taraf\u0131ma ac\u0131 vermedi de\u011fil ama neticesinden mutluyum. Bir heteroseks\u00fcel erke\u011fin ilk vazifelerinden biri erkekli\u011fini \u00f6ld\u00fcrmekse e\u011fer, ben o vazifeyi \u201cSu Duydum\u201d roman\u0131nda g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Hikayelerin kesi\u015fmesine gelince, kesi\u015fme ve daha ziyade birle\u015fme diyebiliriz. O (yan) hikayeler Feride ile Ferdi\u2019nin \u00fczerinde yolculuk yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 Z\u00fcrih G\u00f6l\u00fc\u2019n\u00fc yani biz insanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n ortak hikaye denizini besleyen birer \u0131rmakt\u0131rlar\u2026<\/p>\n

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\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 \u0130ktisat e\u011fitimi alm\u0131\u015f olman hayat\u0131nda nas\u0131l bir fark yaratt\u0131 sence? \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201d roman\u0131nda iktisadi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceden isimlere ve kavramlara rastl\u0131yoruz mesela. Yazar olarak da iktisat beslemi\u015f olabilir mi seni?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> \u0130ktisat e\u011fitimi alm\u0131\u015f olmam para pul i\u015flerinden hi\u00e7 anlamama vesile oldu, zaten \u00f6ncesinde de anlamazd\u0131m \ud83d\ude09 \u0130\u015fin \u015fakas\u0131 bir yana, politik ekonomi g\u00fcnl\u00fck hayat\u0131n ve hatta hayat\u0131n tam kendisidir. Ondan haberdar olmak karakter formlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcmlemede pek tabii insana yard\u0131mc\u0131 oluyor. Sevgili Fikret \u015eenses hocam\u0131n kulaklar\u0131 \u00e7\u0131nlas\u0131n, ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 bir iktisat \u00f6\u011frencisi de\u011fildim ama kendisinden iyi not hari\u00e7 alabilece\u011fim \u00e7o\u011fu \u015feyi ald\u0131m. \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201ddeki kahvecinin, \u201cUzun vadede kahveci kazan\u0131r\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc her hat\u0131rlay\u0131\u015f\u0131mda g\u00fclerim; yanl\u0131\u015f m\u0131d\u0131r? Bence de\u011fildir. \u00dcstelik de bunu s\u00f6yleyen \u015eenses Hoca\u2019m\u0131n hem\u015fehrisidir. Romanda bunu bilerek mi yapt\u0131m hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum. Fakat bu kahvecinin de\u011fil toplumun genelinin politik birikimiyle ilgili. 70\u2019li y\u0131llar \u00fclkenin politik zirvelerinden birini olu\u015fturur.<\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201d ayn\u0131 zamanda bir Ankara roman\u0131. Bat\u0131kent\u2019in kurulu\u015funu g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz orada. Ankara\u2019n\u0131n senin i\u00e7in anlam\u0131 nedir?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201d \u00fc\u00e7 defterden olu\u015fan bir roman. \u0130lk defter Almanya\u2019da isimsiz bir mekanda ge\u00e7er. \u0130kinci defter Ankara\u2019da, Bat\u0131kent\u2019te ge\u00e7er. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc ve son defter de Z\u00fcrih\u2019i mekan al\u0131r. Evet, bence de \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201d bir Ankara roman\u0131d\u0131r: Beypazar\u0131 (ve kurusu), Abidinpa\u015fa, Saimekad\u0131n, Ulus, S\u0131hhiye, Ke\u00e7i\u00f6ren, K\u0131z\u0131lay, Sakarya Caddesi, Keklikp\u0131nar\u0131, ODT\u00dc, Yenimahalle ve Bat\u0131kent. Bat\u0131kent\u2019in kurulu\u015funa \u015fahit oldum. 23 y\u0131l aradan sonra \u00fclkeye d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde, Bat\u0131kent PTT kav\u015fa\u011f\u0131ndan kar\u015f\u0131dan kar\u015f\u0131ya ge\u00e7emedim. Topra\u011f\u0131n\u0131, \u00e7amurunu, \u00e7ak\u0131l\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7i\u011fnedi\u011fim yol otobana d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f, \u00fcstelik ara\u00e7lar k\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 \u0131\u015f\u0131kta da durmuyorlard\u0131. Sevgili \u00c7i\u011fdem hi\u00e7 abartm\u0131yorum, kar\u015f\u0131dan kar\u015f\u0131ya ge\u00e7emedim.<\/p>\n

\u00c7ok h\u0131zl\u0131 de\u011fi\u015fiyor kentlerimiz. Ve maalesef bizde kent haf\u0131zas\u0131 \u00e7ok zay\u0131f. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnsene Ankara\u2019n\u0131n me\u015fhur 4. Cadde ve 8. Cadde isimlerini bir sabah kalk\u0131p de\u011fi\u015ftirdiler! Sebep?<\/p>\n

Misafirlerim -Z\u00fcrih\u2019i gezerken- benden \u00e7o\u011funlukla \u015funu duymu\u015flard\u0131r, Z\u00fcrih Bahnhofstrasse\u2019de ya da Niderdorf\u2019ta bir evin yahut binan\u0131n d\u0131\u015f cephe boyas\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmek \u0130svi\u00e7re anayasas\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmekten daha zordur. Siz kentle \u00f6yle kafan\u0131za g\u00f6re oynayamazs\u0131n\u0131z. Kolektif haf\u0131zalard\u0131r kentler ve mukimleri gibi edebiyat\u00e7\u0131lar i\u00e7in de bu \u00e7ok m\u00fchimdir. Z\u00fcrih Odeon\u2019da Einstein\u2019\u0131n oturup arkada\u015flar\u0131yla siyaset konu\u015ftu\u011funu ya da duvarlara ve tavana bak\u0131p \u0131\u015f\u0131k hakk\u0131nda hayaller kurdu\u011funu ve o mekan\u0131n bug\u00fcn de ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmek insana ilham vermez mi? Verir. \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201dde Halil\u2019in bir \u00e7e\u015fit veda partisi verdi\u011fi K\u00f6rfez nerede? Yok! Kald\u0131 ki Ankara\u2019n\u0131n \u00fczerinden 25 y\u0131ll\u0131k bir silindir ge\u00e7ti. Yine de, her \u015feye ra\u011fmen, Ankara\u2019n\u0131n sa\u011flam bir edebiyat\u0131 var bence. Birileri silmekte mahirse biz de yazmakta mahiriz.<\/p>\n

\u201cD\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnsene G\u0131lgam\u0131\u015f Destan\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 harf \u00f6temizde yaz\u0131ld\u0131. Bizim yaz\u0131n \u00fcretmemiz de\u011fil \u00fcretemememiz mucize olur(du).\u201d<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ezc\u00fcmle, Ankara benim politik ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel olarak do\u011fdu\u011fum \u015fehir. D\u00fcnyaya, Elbistan-Malatya bozk\u0131r\u0131n\u0131n bir k\u00f6y\u00fcnde geldim ama Ankara\u2019da do\u011fdum, Z\u00fcrih\u2019te do\u011furdum\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 Bu topraklarda K\u00fcrt ve Alevi olmak, iktisada ve edebiyata bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l etkilemi\u015ftir sence?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> K\u00fcrt, Alevi ve solcu ya da dur o klasik \u201cK\u201dlarla ifade edelim: K\u00fcrt, K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f, Kom\u00fcnist.\u00a0<\/em>Her GBT\u2019de yakalanma garantisi! Asl\u0131nda bende di\u011fer (b\u00fcy\u00fck) par\u00e7adan da var. Annem \u015eerife Han\u0131m nam\u0131 di\u011fer \u015eerfe Xanim, s\u00fcnni ve T\u00fcrk bir aileden. Yani herkese laf s\u00f6yleme hakk\u0131m var. G\u00fczel tabii. Ne diyordu \u201cSu Duydum\u201dda Feride, \u201cKar\u0131\u015f\u0131mlar iyidir, ba\u015fka t\u00fcrl\u00fc, mermer olup \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yoruz.\u201d D\u00fcnyaya \u00e7ok g\u00f6zle bakma, d\u00fcnyay\u0131 birden fazla lisanla anlatma ve yine birden fazla klavyeyle yaz\u0131ya aktarma \u015fans\u0131 veriyor insana. Bizim co\u011frafyam\u0131z zaten kar\u0131\u015f\u0131m bir co\u011frafya. O me\u015fhur deyimle \u201cKavimler Kap\u0131s\u0131.\u201d Biz ki ne vakit \u201ctek\u201dle\u015ftirilmeye zorland\u0131k cehenneme \u00e7evirdik co\u011frafyay\u0131. De\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n

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Bu topraklar yaz\u0131n\u0131n icat edildi\u011fi topraklar sevgili \u00c7i\u011fdem. \u00c7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir hazinenin \u00fczerinde ve maalesef \u00e7o\u011fu zaman ondan habersiz \u00f6m\u00fcr t\u00fcketip gidiyoruz. Naz\u0131m\u2019\u0131n \u201cHani \u015fu derya i\u00e7re olup \/ deryay\u0131 bilmeyen bal\u0131ktan da tuhaf\u201d dedi\u011fi durum. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnsene G\u0131lgam\u0131\u015f Destan\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 harf \u00f6temizde yaz\u0131ld\u0131. Bizim yaz\u0131n \u00fcretmemiz de\u011fil \u00fcretemememiz mucize olur(du).<\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz \u2013 \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc roman\u0131n san\u0131r\u0131m K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f dervi\u015flerle ilgili olacak. Neden b\u00f6yle bir konu se\u00e7tin ve bu kitab\u0131 ne zaman okuma \u015fans\u0131m\u0131z olacak?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hasan Sever –<\/strong> Ba\u015f karakterlerden biri K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f bir dervi\u015f. Fakat roman birden fazla ba\u015f karaktere sahip. Misyon sahibi bir roman. Yaz\u0131m\u0131 alt\u0131 y\u0131l s\u00fcrd\u00fc. K\u0131sa bir s\u00fcre de\u011fil. Hacim olarak da \u201cBirazc\u0131k Halil\u201din hemen hemen \u00fc\u00e7 kat\u0131. Edebiyat k\u00fct\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde kayd\u0131 olmayan bir co\u011frafyay\u0131 k\u00fct\u00fc\u011fe kaydetmeye gayret ettim; ve san\u0131r\u0131m bir nebze de ba\u015fard\u0131m. Mutluyum. Bu, b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sorumlulu\u011fu yerine getirmi\u015f olman\u0131n mutlulu\u011fu. \u015eimdi kendimi finalleri bitirmi\u015f \u00f6\u011frenci gibi bo\u015fta hissediyorum.<\/p>\n

Bizim co\u011frafyam\u0131z zaten kar\u0131\u015f\u0131m bir co\u011frafya. O me\u015fhur deyimle \u201cKavimler Kap\u0131s\u0131.\u201d Biz ki ne vakit \u201ctek\u201dle\u015ftirilmeye zorland\u0131k cehenneme \u00e7evirdik co\u011frafyay\u0131. De\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Okurun kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kma i\u015fini bilmiyorum. Memleketin ahv\u00e2l ve \u015feraiti malum. Yay\u0131nevleri ka\u011f\u0131t ve m\u00fcrekkep bulamamaktan \u015fikayet\u00e7i. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnsene ne kadar temel sorunlar\u0131m\u0131z var. As\u0131l\u0131 sevgili \u00c7i\u011fdem bizim co\u011frafyada bu i\u015fler her zaman s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 olmu\u015ftur. Kendimi, hani \u00f6vg\u00fc say\u0131lmazsa, Naz\u0131m Hikmet, Orhan Kemal damar\u0131ndan sayar\u0131m. Onlardan daha iyi \u015fartlara ve teknik olanaklara sahibiz tabii ama kaderimiz, dertlerimiz ortak. Fakat sanat zoru sever; zorsunmaz; derler ya \u2018Dervi\u015f, derdine a\u015f\u0131k\u2019\u00a0 bizimki de o hesap; severiz zorluklar\u0131.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7i\u011fdem Boz<\/strong>
\nZ\u00fcrih – \u0130stanbul, 8 May\u0131s 2022<\/strong><\/p>\n

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